Friday, November 21, 2008

Lenin on Obama

2 comments:

Justin Ta said...

Lenin would take a pessimist view on Obama’s victory as Parliamentary democracy is the best shell for capitalism while giving the proletariats the impression that they have the ability in decision making (319, 343). Capitalist democracy is the best shell for capitalism as it reproduces the dominant class through bureaucracies, military, and concessions. However, proletariats are given the perception that this democracy unchains them by offering them the right to vote, organize, and communicate.
Moreover, Lenin believes that Obama would be more in favor of the dominant class as the “thousand threads” cannot be broken between the bourgeoisies and the state (330). Lenin would suggest that the capitalist state must be destroyed and a new state must be installed to end exploitation and classes (377). Essentially, Lenin would want Obama to be up for immediate recall, accountable to all workers, and generating rules; this way, the proletariats can collectively plan the economy and will eventually transition into communism.
I am in support of Lenin’s argument about capitalism democracy being the best shell for capitalism and an illusion for the proletariats, however, Lenin undermines the strength of the state and military. The state will continue to support the dominant class and will be coercive to the working class with it’s military. The working class will not be able to overcome the military and bureaucracies to change the capitalist state. Furthermore, Lenin’s retention of the bourgeois rights will continue to practice capitalism as people produce according to one’s ability. It will be difficult to decide what is appropriate for one’s need.

Morgan Elizabeth Beck said...

I agree with what Lenin would say against Obama but I
also think that Lenin would not be totally against
him. I think that they do have some similarities in
regards to wanting more equality through the workers.
Lenin wants to impose a universal wage for all workers
creating a smaller gap between classes which in
demonstrated in the Dictatorship of the Proletariat.
Obama too wants to create a smaller gap between
classes but through a different approach. Obama wants
to tax the rich and give to the poor almost like a
modern day Robin Hood. Lenin might also think that
Obama would be a good first step towards communism
which is outlined in his concepts in the Dictatorship
of the Proletariat considering Obama is elected and
has the ability to be up for
recall.

However the flip side may be that
Lenin believes the thousand threads are much too
strong to be destroyed and since Obama is part of the
state the threads will never be abolished. He might
also view Obama as just an illusion for the people to
think they have power but in reality it just mystifies
the strength of the thousand threads.