Thursday, November 20, 2008

Obama and Lenin

Lenin would support some of Obama's views like redistributing wealth, however, he would believe that Obama's ideology was not extreme enough to lead to communism.

2 comments:

Jenna Lolli said...

Lenin would support many of Obama’s views because they have similar economic plans and ideology. Both Lenin and Obama see that there are class antagonisms and a need for change. Obama sees need for the government to act and fix these class antagonisms by redistributing wealth through taxes. Similarly, Lenin believes the state’s function is to regulate class struggle. In the democracy Obama will lead, citizens will have the right to vote, organize, and speak freely. Lenin’s idea of democracy has the same characteristics (319).

Lenin says this democracy is the best shell for capitalism because there is an illusion that the people participating in voting have power and hope to change things. It also reproduces class domination in respective of those who lead parliament. This is similar to the illusion that people believe if Obama wins he will change capitalism, although it may be just a misapprehension. Democracy also serves as the best shell for the proletariat because it leaves them breathing room to organize and talk about ideas openly. Capitalist democracy provides for struggle and serves as a vehicle for oppression.

One of the state’s functions for both Lenin and Obama is to limit class struggle. They both have a set of regressive institutions to police men and women. The working class would support both Lenin and Obama because they have an electoral democracy and believe they can change the way things are by voting for someone. Lenin’s idea of elected officials is similar to the democracy Obama leads; however, officials are not paid wage labor. In both societies, officials are subject to recall. Lenin might not like Obama because he is still part of the 1,000 threads and the capitalist class (342, 323, 360, 382).

Lenin would support Obama’s economic policies because they both somewhat want to equalize wealth. Lenin wants to eliminate exploitation and have people produce to their abilities and receive according to how much work they do. Obama wants to redistribute wealth by ultimately taxing the very rich and distribute surplus amongst the middle and lower classes. Obama does not necessarily have an idea of a planned economy like Lenin does, where people decide what they want to produce and who produces it. Because there is still inequality in Obama and Lenin’s early ideologies, there is still a sense of bourgeoisie right (377). On the contrary, Obama does not eliminate stocks or private property and Lenin might not agree with him on these actions.

Lenin would disagree with Obama because Lenin’s ultimate goal is to get rid of the state, which Obama does not desire. Obama does not want communism, he wants to shorten the gaps between classes. Overall, Lenin is more of an extremist than Obama. Obama does not want to use force to get rid of the bourgeoisie or move from democracy to communism.

Jenna Lolli said...

I forgot to add my response to Lenin which would be:

Lenin's ideology is too extreme. It is natural for there to be a division of classes and nothing is going to get rif of them. We need a dominate class to organize society, just as we need leaders to lead us.I agree with Obama's less extreme ideas of redistributing wealth.